I’ve been studying vaccines for a few years now. During that time several pro-vaxxers have done their best to convince me of the error of my ways. Many grow frustrated with me and inform me that I’m simple minded and stupid. It’s true that I wasn’t the quickest kid in the class. It’s taken me a long time to grasp what they’re saying, but I think I’ve finally got it. If you’re a pro-vaxxer, please let me know if I accurately represented your position. Thanks for your patience!
Pro Vax Manifesto
* All disease is bad.
* All vaccines are good.
* The science is settled, all vaccines work.
* All vaccines are equally effective.
* All vaccines are equally safe.
* Vaccines are tested for safety more than any other pharmaceutical product.
* Vaccine safety studies are long term studies, meaning they last for more than four days.
* Experimental vaccines intended for babies are first tested on babies.
* Experimental vaccines that will eventually be given to unhealthy children are first tested on unhealthy children.
* Vaccine safety studies always include inert placebos.
* The entire vaccine schedule has been studied for safety.
* The theory and the practice of vaccination are identical.
* Vaccine Information Sheets contain the same information as Vaccine Package Inserts.
* Vaccination equals immunization, yet the public should still fear and ostracize the unvaccinated.
* Vaccines work, but only if everyone else is vaccinated because, of course, my medicine makes your medicine more effective.
* Everyone should be forced to vaccinate to protect the vaccinated from getting the diseases for which they were vaccinated.
* Vaccines have never caused ADHD, tics, Guillain-Barré Syndrome, learning disabilities, cancer, diabetes, eczema, paralysis, autism, or any other injury.
* It’s just a coincidence when babies get sick, diseased, regress, or die following vaccination.
* Vaccination is the leading cause of coincidences.
* There is nothing in vaccines that could hurt a baby or anyone else. That’s why vaccine manufacturers and doctors can’t be sued for vaccine injury or death.
* If vaccines injure a baby, it’s the baby’s fault for having bad genes. Vaccines just identify the defect.
* Vaccines are composed of neurotoxins, human fetal DNA, animal tissue, adjuvants, allergens, antigens, and contaminants. Buildings are evacuated and hazmat teams are called when the contents of a vaccine spill on the floor. That’s why the same ingredients are safe when repeatedly injected into pregnant women, infants, toddlers, teens, the aged, and virtually everyone in between.
* The toxic ingredients in vaccines make sick people healthy and healthy people healthier.
* Injecting toxins is no different than ingesting toxins.
* Because one vaccine is safe, two, four, eight vaccines etc. are equally safe.
* Vaccines are better than vitamins, the more you get, the healthier you are.
* Studies show that vaccine injuries and deaths increase as the number of vaccines increase. That’s why babies can safely receive thousands of vaccines at once.
* High-pitched screams, fevers, lethargy, being zoned out, sleeping for days, diarrhea, and seizures are normal vaccine reactions.
* Normal reactions are not vaccine injury.
* The US vaccine schedule is the only schedule in the world.
* There are no alternative schedules.
* Alternative schedules are untested and dangerous.
* Until recently, 100% of people failed to notice behaviors and traits associated with autism that have always existed in 2% of the population. Some of these behaviors and traits include head banging, spinning, hand flapping, poop smearing, delayed speech, speech regression, inability to speak, speaking in an abnormal tone of voice, repeating words and phrases over and over again, yelling, crying, or laughing for no apparent reason, obsessive attachment to unusual objects, gastrointestinal problems, explosive diarrhea, extreme sensitivity to light, sound and touch, indifference to temperature or pain, difficulty understanding other people’s feelings, reactions, or facial expressions, resistance to being touched, failure to bond or emotionally connect with parents, siblings, and others, wandering, and lack of fear of water sometimes resulting in drowning.
* Autism is normal.
* Autism is a gift.
* Autism should be celebrated.
* Parents who don’t celebrate their kids’ autism are selfish crybabies.
* Autism is an evolutionary response to the computer age.
* No vaccine has ever caused autism.
* Only one now debunked paper written solely by one now disgraced doctor has ever linked vaccines to autism.
* That man is a fraud and he’s personally responsible for killing millions of babies just like Hitler.
* Media outlets can be trusted because they always report the truth about vaccines.
* Media outlets are not influenced by corporate sponsors or government censorship.
* Media should shame and mock parents of vaccine-injured children, especially the moms.
* Media should libel and misquote doctors and scientists who address vaccine safety issues.
* Media should not give fair and equal airtime to parents of vaccine-injured children.
* Media sponsored hate speech is bad … unless it’s targeting parents of vaccine-injured children.
* Media should slam movies such as Vaxxed without ever watching them.
* The pharmaceutical industry does not influence medical school curriculum.
* Doctors are taught everything there is to know about vaccination:
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1. disease is bad
2. vaccines are good
3. the vaccine schedule
4. vaccine administration and
5. strategies to coerce vaccine hesitant parents and others to vaccinate.
* Listen to your doctor … unless your doctor warns you about the dangers of vaccination.
* The ethical principle of informed consent which was established after World War II to prevent further medical experimentation on uninformed and unwilling subjects does not apply to vaccination.
* When doctors coerce and threaten parents to vaccinate their kids, they are not violating medical ethics.
* Medical providers should chart adverse events from medications, but they should deny vaccine-induced adverse events because vaccines are safe and effective.
* Doctors who address vaccine safety concerns should lose their medical licenses.
* The HPV vaccine has been proven to prevent cancer.
* Teen aged girls who fake injury—including paralysis, full body tics, and debilitating pain resulting in being confined to their homes and beds—after getting the HPV vaccine should see a shrink for psychological problems.
* Exposure to chickenpox and measles in childhood provides no health benefits later in life.
* Getting chickenpox is very bad and very scary.
* Getting measles is very, very bad and very, very scary because measles is one of the most lethal diseases on Earth and probably in the whole universe. That’s why parents used to take their kids to measles and chickenpox parties.
* Vaccines don’t contain human fetal DNA.
* Only two babies have been aborted for vaccine research.
* Vaccines used to contain mercury, but that doesn’t matter because it was the good kind.
* Vaccines don’t contain mercury anymore, but that doesn’t matter because it was the good kind.
* Vaccines now banned in developed countries because they contained mercury are still being used in developing countries, but that doesn’t matter because it’s the good kind.
* The amount of mercury in some “preservative- or thimerosal-free” vaccines exceeds the EPA safety limit and must be disposed of as hazardous waste. But that doesn’t matter, because it’s the good kind of hazardous waste.
* Aluminum is a known neurotoxin and is proven to play a significant role in promoting neurological diseases like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, dementia, and autism. That’s why it’s safe to inject newborns with aluminum in excess of EPA safety limits.
* Aluminum is essential for optimal brain functioning and development.
* There is no valid reason for religious people to object to vaccination because God has no problem with injecting healthy babies time and time again with a variety of cell-killing and brain-damaging concoctions.
* People get Hepatitis B from dirty needles and sexual activity. That’s why Hep B negative mothers should consent to have their 1 day old infants injected with the Hep B vaccine.
* Pus from cowpox eradicated smallpox.
* 10% of the Earth’s population received smallpox vaccines. That’s why nearly everyone needs to be vaccinated to eradicate a disease.
* Not getting the chickenpox vaccine will kill millions of people from smallpox.
* Not getting the measles vaccine will put millions of kids in iron lungs.
* Environmental toxins and tonsillectomies had nothing to do with America’s polio epidemic and polio disease reclassification had nothing to do with reversing the epidemic.
* The polio vaccine used in India is not causing paralysis in 30,000 children per year.
* Sanitation, clean drinking water, and good food are responsible for the reduction of diseases for which there are currently no vaccines. However, once a vaccine is developed for any of those diseases, the previous statement will no longer be valid.
* Immunocompromised people should not be vaccinated with live virus vaccines … unless they live in developing countries.
* The oral polio vaccine should never be given to HIV positive people … unless they live in Africa.
* Being sick is no reason not to get vaccinated.
* It would be unethical to conduct a prospective vaxxed vs. unvaxxed study because withholding vaccines from children would kill them.
* It would be impossible to conduct a retroprospective vaxxed vs. unvaxxed study because all the unvaxxed kids have already died from vaccine preventable diseases.
* Vaccines have never been tested for safety with pregnant women and their fetuses. That’s why it’s safe to inject them in pregnant women.
* Pregnant women should avoid alcohol, antibiotics, Thalidomide, and other pharmaceutical products, but should receive all vaccines offered them at any stage of their pregnancies.
* Babies are born vaccine deficient.
* Premature infants need the protection from vaccines even more than full term infants.
* Even though the pertussis vaccine does not prevent the transmission of pertussis and is known to result in asymptomatic carriers of the disease, vaccinating family members is the best way to protect newborns from whooping cough.
*Drug companies make drugs for profit, but they make vaccines out of the goodness of their hearts.
* Anti-vaxxers enrich themselves writing and selling anti-vaccine propaganda.
* The industry has never lied about vaccine safety, efficacy, or necessity.
* The industry has never faked vaccine research.
* The industry would never divide vaccine lots to spread out and hide vaccine injury and death.
* The industry would never test vaccines on orphans, disabled people, or people of color.
* Merck lied about Vioxx, but it would never lie about its vaccines.
* Merck supervisors did not order its scientists to fake the efficacy of the mumps vaccine.
* The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation didn’t get booted out of India for conducting cloaked vaccine trials on Indian girls resulting in thousands of injuries and hundreds of deaths.
* The Gates Foundation isn’t preparing to vaccinate hundreds of thousands of African babies with an experimental malaria vaccine known to have negative efficacy, meaning that vaccinated babies get malaria at a higher rate than vaccine free babies.
* The CDC’s primary interest is the health and safety of American children.
* The CDC can be trusted to regulate vaccine safety issues because it owns over 50 vaccine patents and profits from vaccine sales.
* CDC employees have no conflicts of interest.
* When the CDC reports that the flu vaccine is 40% effective, that means that the vaccine prevents the flu in four out of ten people.
* CDC employees have never consorted with industry or the medical establishment to hide the relationship between mercury-containing Thimerosal and autism.
* CDC employees have never consorted with industry or the medical establishment to hide the relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism.
* CDC employees have never trashed data linking the MMR vaccine to autism.
* There is no CDC whistleblower.
* There is no such thing as a Vaccine Court because there’s no such thing as vaccine injury.
* The Vaccine Court has not paid out more than $3.5 billion for vaccine injury and death.
* Congress is not influenced by donations from Big Pharma.
* Congress has never ignored vaccine safety issues.
* Congress has never been complicit in hiding vaccine safety issues from the public.
* Scientific journals can be trusted.
* The papers in scientific journals can be trusted.
* The drug industry does not ghostwrite pro-vax papers for scientists to sign.
* Scientists who address vaccine safety issues should be censured or fired.
* The anti-vax movement is a recent phenomenon.
* Anti-vaxxers get their information from a Playboy bunny.
* Anti-vaxxers get their information from the Internet and everybody knows you can’t trust anything on the Internet, except for the CDC, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the pharmaceutical industry.
* The AAP has no conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry.
* All unvaccinated people are dangerous vectors of disease.
* All vaccinated kids with HIV, Hep B, chicken pox, measles, influenza, whooping cough, etc., should be allowed in school.
* All children recently vaccinated with live virus vaccines should be allowed in school.
* All unvaxxed kids are by definition sick and dangerous disease vectors.
* All unvaxxed kids should be banned from school, because they’re especially dangerous on weekdays from 8 am to 3 pm.
* All anti-vaxxers are anti-science.
* All anti-vaxxers are baby killers.
* All anti-vaxxers should lose custody of their children.
* All anti-vaxxers should be quarantined, jailed, or hung.
* When someone dies of a disease, unvaccinated people should be charged, tried, and convicted of murder.
* Pro-vaxxers are logical, pro-science, and open-minded.
* Pro-vaxxers tolerate differing points of view and are all around caring, compassionate people.
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Brett Wilcox and his son ran across the USA in 2014 promoting a GMO Free USA and world. Brett has greatly enriched himself by writing and selling the following books: We’re Monsanto: Feeding the World, Lie After Lie, Books I and II, and Jabbed: How the Vaccine Industry, Medical Establishment and Government Stick It to You and Your Family. Brett blogs at RunningTheCountry.com.
Damn good job! Thank you!
If we each had a penny for every time we’ve heard one of these remarks…
WOW! Impressive. I think you nailed it. Ask Paul what he thinks.
Brilliant Brett, brilliant
The Univ of Stellenbosch South Africa will hold the First quackery and pseudo science Conference between 20 -21 Nov 2017. I will send your Pro Vax Manifesto letter to Prof Claassen to place on the Agenda for an open discussion and ask that they include latest independent scientific vaccine studies with meta analists, conflicted interests, gold standard Cochrane comments etc for a hungry and academic audience and media to analise
http://www.cmsri.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MawsonStudyHealthOutcomes5.8.2017.pdf
as well as http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/retractions-errors-driving-loss-faith-peer-review-process
Thank you, Andre.
I’ve made a few changes and they’re up and running on this page.
This is hilarious because it is so true. Thank you for using your knowledge and skills to research for us!
I couldn’t decide whether to laugh, because your sarcasm is hilarious, or cry, because (sadly) you totally nailed it and it’s terrifying.
I ended up laughing. For now.
I felt the same. (several actually made me laugh) Until I got to the part about the impeding/upcoming malaria trials. Not funny, not at all. 🙁
Bwahahahahaha. The positions are preposterous when listed all in a row. Thanks for putting it all together for the rest of us who are considered idiots.
Wow! Brilliant!!! Thank you! I am a Proud mom of 3 unvaccinated young men since 1993! I thought the war on people’s health was bad then, it’s so much worse now! You have put it all together so smartly!!!
Yup, those are public health policymakers’ talking points, right from the copy-and-paste social oppression playbook. The simplistic directives allow readers to repeat, rather than think.
Brilliant!! Absolutely summarizes the pro-vax talking points!!
Just bloody great! All the drivel out there in one simple page!
Wow I’ve never seen so much bullshit condensed in one post. Actually the most studied pharmaceutical product is oral contraceptives not vaccines. Like everything else in the world, vaccines also have their drawbacks yet the benefits hugely outcome those drawbacks. Even your “natural remedies” can have adverse effects, funny hun? It’s kinda cool anti-vaxx saying the industry is faking proof when almost all studies againts vaccines are proved wrong and even docs have already lost licenses for faking proof in anti-vaxx studies. If your concern is about the needles please know that in licensed health unities we use sterile disposable needles this means they’re used only once and then get thrown away in specific recipients to not contaminate the environment. Btw you forgot to mention that the big majority of non-vaccinated children spend lots of time of their childhood taking medicine and antibiotics because they’re immunity is not the same as the others, this is proved by studies and not on the bullshit you read across the internet. Honestly what anti-vaxx people do is that tey’re providing the public with false information and they should be more conscious about it.
Catarina,
“Btw you forgot to mention that the big majority of non-vaccinated children spend lots of time of their childhood taking medicine and antibiotics because they’re immunity is not the same as the others”
All research on unvaccinated children shows that they are healthier than their vaccinated peers. (http://www.cmsri.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MawsonStudyHealthOutcomes5.8.2017.pdf) Please cite proof of your false claim above, or retract it.
Now Ginger…you broke my irony meter!
“Please cite proof of your false claim above, or retract it.”
Your scam reference has been retracted twice already!
To be very, very clear….actual statisticians have been 100% clear that the design, data, and interpretation in your link is utter BS and “results” are completely uninterpretable…
Sadly, I can’t find a single anti-vacc with the integrity to tell the truth!
W&N
You are lacking. There are many. But it is assholes like you that discount truth and in the end cause many, many children to be harmed if not killed. When science proves something, its swept under. When the people cry out they are mocked and their life’s value is thrown in the trash. Their childrens lives are mocked by ignorant psychopaths like YOU. -vaccines may have their place. But they should NEVER be mandated, forced or coerced because they have real risk that you hypocrites ignore becaise of YOUR “facts” and your “science”. Half truth doesnt make it true. That is the true pseudoscience. Man. People used to have INTEGRITY. -The only real danger to society is making people believe that they have to be petrified of most of those diseases. “Oh the deadly measels!”. Smfh. It sure can be in thise with weak immune systems. But it is NOT overall. Chickenpox… smh. Taking away their wisdom on how to care for themselves. Have a healthy body and you’ll kick it’s ass. Making them reliant on a doctor that more than half the time misdiagnose or take their sweet ass time getting there. Causing people to ignore their gut instinct to protect their children. Forcing this shit into other peoples bodies because of you fear. ….hpv vaccine mandated and manipulated?? You all are fucking SICK. I get the ignorance but the end result of it is unacceptable. -I understand that this isnt a popular perspective. I dont much care anymore. -Choice. Never forced or coerced.
Thank you for the response…nice rant.
The topic was a flagrantly fraudulent study that deceives parents about the safety of vaccines.
I stated that I couldn’t find any anti-vacc with the integrity to tell the truth about this “study”.
And you didn’t prove any examples where anti-vaccs were truthful about the study.
You demonstrated my point!
The reason for your vulgar, fact-free rant is that you simply had nothing rational to contribute.
***IF***anyone here has something substantive to offer about the safety or efficacy of vaccines, I am willing to investigate it….key word being if…
W&N
So Ginger….apparently you just don’t care about anti-vacc fraud!
W&N
My kids’ immune system was damaged by vaccines. I used to think they were all good, too. Then I woke up. I guess it takes something like that to make you ask questions– you know, like they do in real science. Question. It’s a good thing, really. You should try it.
I do care. I care a lot. In fact, the more I investigate, the more I care. Just like with Roundup Ready crops/Monsanto. Creepy in both industries. Paid off scientists, politicians, etc. Let’s make them safer instead of taking down the brave scientists who are speaking out and publishing peer-reviewed studies. I’m not anti-vaxx- I vaccinated my kids. I am PRO safety, but people like you think that’s irrelevant. Sad.
In real science, you just lied. Your child’s immune system was not damaged by vaccines. Prove the were with a proper medical verification, and not anecdotal BS. I’m questioning. Answer please.
Catarina’s comment is not a brilliant continuation of the original post? Sure gave me a chuckle.
What is really precious about your comment is that it perfectly encapsulates what this entire post is trying to tell everyone. Your false claim should get added to the list, hats off to you for finding something which was not already included (not an easy task)!
What is also ironic is that there is no science from the CDC, NIH, IOM etc to substantiate your claim that unvaccinated children require more medicine, medical attention or antibiotics because “they’re [sic] immunity is not the same as the others”. Silly you, the CDC doesn’t study stuff like this. They don’t study anything at all about vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children.
So far we have several small-scale (pilot) survey studies funded by grassroots organizations which have all shown that unvaccinated children are far healthier, though I’m not sure if any of them specifically looked at antibiotic use. If not, that should definitely be added to the surveys.
Well Davey,
What is really pathetic is not just that your comments are wrong…but that literally no matter how many posters…over how many years…point out your errors and direct you to the relevant references …you never, ever, get the basic facts corrects…
W&N
Catarina, I’m the parent of a vaccine-injured child and in the 14 years since my child’s injury, I’ve spent hundreds of hours studying vaccines and their effects. I suggest you make a commitment to spend some time, say 50 hours, learning more about vaccines. Here are three things you could read to get started:
(1) “Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies” (book by Neil Z. Miller)
(2) “The Danger of Excessive Vaccination During Brain Development” (article by retired neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock; easily found on the internet). There are 175 references cited in this article, and 174 of them are neuroscience or medical research reports.
(3) “Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History” (book by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk)
If you aren’t willing to take the time to read the two books, at least read Dr. Blaylock’s article.
Free advice: if you want to get the science correct you should consult with actual, qualified scientists.
What have you got to lose? Other than learning how your links have deceived you….
W&N
just curious, do you take pride in being a horrifying troll?
Thank you for the very, very helpful response.
I simply suggested a reasonable way of fact-checking…getting to the truth.
And this reduced you to name calling and personal attacks.
Just curious: do you truly not understand that anyone with the tiniest shred of integrity is laughing at you?????
W&N
Ah we have a late entrant contributor to the Pro Vax manifesto, this gal has come up with another slogan-
Pro Vax Definition of a qualified scientist- one that completely agrees with my point of view.
Thats a good one w&n add it to the list!
Hahaha, gasp. This is what we get when we go to the doctor, ignorant healthcare workers, who have not used one hour of their time to do their own research and comparison, and they are recommending vacciness, scary.
Catarina,
I didn’t forget. You just missed it. Here it is again:
* The toxic ingredients in vaccines make sick people healthy and healthy people healthier.
* All unvaxxed kids are by definition sick and dangerous disease vectors.
You forget that there is nothing toxic in vaccines….toxicologist have been explain this fact for decades now…all it takes is middle-school science to see your error…
And that unvaccinated kids increase the risk to all children…all it takes is 5th grade math to see your error…
W&N
Haha this joker is feeling left out she wants to add a few more points to the Pro Vax manifesto. She’s just added there is nothing toxic in vaccines not even the toxins. You’re a funny girl w&n.
I think you should go and get some more vaccines, they’re good for you, hop along, get as many as you can, let us know how you go!
Of course….if a person simply doesn’t want to be truthful then they wouldn’t make an effort at fact-checking….
W&N
Ain’t nobody worried about the needle.
Lol! I have a daughter, 7 years old, never ever vaccinated, that has never ever taken a prescription drug, not even an antibiotic because shes never been as sick as the fully vaccinated kids that take prescription meds for their various ailments. My older child WAS fully vaccinated and needed many antibiotics, asthma inhalers, steriods and allergy meds because his immune system was impaired by the onslaught of vaccinations he received. The never vaccinated people require less deugs, less surgery, less therapy, less doctor visits and less hospitalizations. Thats a fact!
“The never vaccinated people require less deugs, less surgery, less therapy, less doctor visits and less hospitalizations. Thats a fact!”
No…that is an assertion.
Strange that every health care company and health care system on the planet disagrees with you….I mean they only have billions of data points and you have………………….nothing!
W&N
You mean billions of DOLLARSand bought science that blind them to the fact that children do get harmed by vaccines. Often, in fact. Your rule: deny every study that disagrees with industry’s “findings”. Maybe you should have lunch with Dr. Thompson and ask him about the trashcans. Are you a “trashcanner” too?
Thank you for the response.
1. You simply failed to understand the argument.
I pointed out that the companies/healthcare systems that BUY the vaccines…and pay to administer the vaccines…and pay the healthcare costs of the vaccinated and the not vaccinated…universally reject your assertions.
Seriously…how many billions of data points do you need?
Here is a recent example from the US firm Kaiser Permanente:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2017/03/30/peds.2016-4091.full.pdf
2. I think Dr. Thompson/Vaxxed is a great topic!
To be clear, we have all Dr. Thompson’s documents, the data, proper statistical analysis and Hooker’s court case…and surprise! The anti-vaccs systematically lie about the basic facts in this story.
Here are Dr. Thompson’s documents:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jxtr06s5ddc82s7/AADaZvp7yu_daBhbuZwMfQy4a?dl=0
What I deny is that you will bother to read Dr. Thompson’s actual words and see how the whole garbage canning of data is just a flat out lie….
W&N
Funny I have 2 unvaccinated kids already in their teens that had never had a round of antibiotics in their lives. No ear infections, no eczema, no allergies, no seizures, no high fevers a cold here and there, never out of school for more than 3 days. Never hospitalized. ON the other hand I am very vaccinated, eczema really bad, sick for a whole year after a round of vaccines, th 2 dominant immune system, it did not work so well for me, so keep your vaccines, my body my choice.
@catarina
links? seems like links for such strong statements would be easy enough for such a well informed writer to provide.
Catarina
So sad to see how misinformed you are, look at some of the scientific links provided above by Andre (4th comment from the top) and Sayer Ji @ Greenmed – thereafter you have the agency to whatever you feel best for your children, as no one is forcing anything here, unlike California, Mississipi and Australia now forcing vaccined that is completely unconstitutional. If something is that good, safe and effective, it will sell itself, without force – all the best
This was exceptionally brilliant. I can’t think of anything else to add to the list. Good job. Sharing and sharing!
I am angry that I didn’t write this 10 years ago.
Caterina,
Would you mind if we added your false statement about unvaccinated kids needing more medicine to Brett’s List? It’s a GOOD one!
That was excellent! Thank you!
I might have worded things a bit different to read more like a manifesto with the sarcastic truth is parenthetical statements in some places. Also, it is important to be accurate with noting something as viral or bacterial Ex: pertussis is referred to as a virus but it is a bacteria. Inaccuracies of this basic nature can reduce credibility. In response to a comment, vaccines do not make for a healthy immune system. Vaccines will not work to prevent any disease other than the ones they are targeted for. Some even argue that the unvaccinated have better immune systems, and is most likely true.
Oh my gosh Catalina really went there, lol. Ah yes so my vaxxed kids have: hashimoto’s, auto immune disease, constant ear and respiratory infections, metal illness, ADD, anxiety disorder. My unvaxxed? Nothing. One had stitches once after falling off a bike.no meds. No physical therapy. Rarely a doctor’s visit.
Brilliant! Thank you Brett for putting this together – a gem that I will share with believers and non-believers in the Religion of Vaccinology. All four of my adult children had to suffer severe vaccine-induced injuries before I saw the light. Once I saw it, there’s no going back….
“Religion of Vaccinology” ha! Good one!
We need to drain the swamp and you and your position is a good place to start.
We need freedom to think!!! And not be told what we must do even if it harms us. Experiment on your own body and all your family and leave us alone!!!
You have the freedom to think. It’s on you if you can’t tell the difference between correct information and quackery. There is no experimenting going on. If that’s your position, Yvette, you can’t think on your own and you need to be guided. That’s why you won’t be left alone – until you actually learn to think and decipher good from bad.
Learn from your mistakes and issue an apology.
Utterly fantastic, Brett!
Hoping your brilliant piece will open more eyes to the dangers, inefficacies, and lack of need for vaccines, and to the corruption that underlies them from manufacture to mandate and beyond.
Please keep writing!
Thanks so much, Laura!
BINGO!
My position: I seek a forum where all relevant evidence (scientifically carried out, so cannot be disputed) is collated and presented. BOTH sides seek the truth and and place matters into the:
1. ‘Yes’ (they are good – even if figures show that while there may side effects, the benefits gained far outweigh the risks. Is there an agreed % ?)
2. Not proven (beneficial/or bad) or
3. Causes no significant (% anyone?) issues/side effects AND results in proven beneficial effects on the subjects injected.
Why? There is the same controversy going on about fluoride, yet nothing appears to be resolved. I have faith in the scientific approach and I wish the scientists on both sides would get together and perform an honest inquiry, and then publish the results.
Has anyone done this?
I’m not talking about assertions nor preaching to the converted, rather a true meeting of minds.
Your website was down yesterday so I didn’t have a chance to let you know in advance, but I’ve reblogged this on the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network website (www.avn.org.au) and wanted to say THANK YOU for saying everything that needed saying and for showing the vaccination fanatics for what they are – a religious cult that will ignore proof and evidence in favour of religious belief.
You’re very welcome, Meryl.
I wish you the very best in Australia!
Look who’s talking! Black salve, Merpyl, black salve. You are the most cult ridden person in the Summerland.
Hey….you get a bit of room for rhetorical hyperbole….but your posting goes way, way beyond that and is just plain silly.
Look how it starts:
* All disease is bad.
By definition disease is bad.
* All vaccines are good.
Not true: for example Novavax’s RSV vaccine…that recently failed in clinical trials.
* The science is settled, all vaccines work.
Not true—the licensed vaccines work, but there are countless examples beyond the Novavax example of vaccines that don’t work.
* All vaccines are equally effective.
Not true—the pertussis vaccine is much less effective then the measles vaccine.
* All vaccines are equally safe.
That is not true—the rabies vaccine is much less safe than the measles vaccine.
* Vaccines are tested for safety more than any other pharmaceutical product.
That is true…all you have to do is to read the FDA site….
* Vaccine safety studies are long term studies, meaning they last for more than four days.
Not true: vaccine safety studies go for years….all you have to do is to read the words…
* Experimental vaccines intended for babies are first tested on babies.
Not true—no vaccine is first tested on babies.
* Experimental vaccines that will eventually be given to unhealthy children are first tested on unhealthy children.
Not true—no vaccine is first tested on babies
* Vaccine safety studies always include inert placebos.
Vaccine studies use correct placebos…seriously, this is middle-school science!
* The entire vaccine schedule has been studied for safety.
That is true. Here is a summary review:
https://www.nap.edu/read/13563/chapter/1
“Each new vaccine considered for inclusion in the immunization schedule is tested within the context of the existing schedule and reviewed by clinical researchers, who analyze the balance of demonstrated benefits and risks.”
No rational person could take your posting seriously when you systematically and grossly misrepresent the most basic facts.
I am sure we can count on you to correct your errors!
W&N
Sorry, could you please provide the study of vaccines against saline placebos? Has that EVER happened? Or is it just against the adjuvants? BIG difference.
Thank you for the response.
Just for starters….I am truly sorry that the idea of using Google Scholar and searching: “vaccine saline placebo”…was just too difficult an idea for you….
If you do such a search, you can read many 1000’s of vaccine studies with saline placebos…
http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0042-96862001000700007
“A total of 131 271 people were systematically allocated a single dose of 30 mg of Vi polysaccharide {vaccine} or saline placebo.”
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/383571?version=meter+at+null&module=meter-Links&pgtype=Blogs&contentId=&mediaId=%25%ufffdID%25%25&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click
“Purified split-virion vaccine containing A/Singapore/6/86(H1N1), A/Beijing/353/89(H3N2), B/Beijing/1/87, and B/Panama/45/90 (n=927) or intramuscular placebo containing physiological saline solution (n=911).”
Etc…etc….etc….etc…
This is a great example as to exactly why the anti-vaccs are marginalized to posting on the Net….they just can’t/won’t get the most basic facts correct…much less the science.
Thanks for proving this point!
W&N
I’d like to state that
– The study was conducted in China for a typhoid fever vaccine for school age children older than five. If the double blind saline vaccine studies are so commonly done and so reliable why aren’t they American studies with a representative American population? I am Australian, so I can equally say the same thing, if I’m going to rely on a study which directly affect my health, I’d like the study to be done in country with a population sample reflective of my population.
– the typhoid vaccine isn’t on the American or Australian vaccination schedule so the results of this study can’t be extrapolated to say the vaccination schedule is safe, especially as the schedule pertains to newborns and children under 5 while the study looks at children over five (who incidentally have much more developed immune systems by that age).
– the study concludes that 0.5% of the vaccinated sample showed fever. The study states as factual statistics that there were 79 cases a year of typhoid fever per 100,000 pre vaccination. 0.5% of 100,000 is 500. So basically the study concludes that vaccinating with the Vi vaccine is good because instead of getting less than 100 cases of typhoid fever a year, we should allow 500 people to get a fever instead. Oh wait, isn’t a fever a symptom of typhoid fever? And a fever as a result of being injected with typhoid virus is logically a typhoid virus induced fever. Therefore the study is really saying after vaccination, there will be a six times increase in typhoid fever in the general population. Definitely vaccination success.
The second study is an abstract and has to be paid for. If you’re going to post an article as evidence please at least provide the full article and the arguments.
You don’t know that the tests haven’t been done in Australia or America because in both countries such tests are commercially confidential. I know they have in Australia because the TGA is required to do them by their own regulations. And you don’t know what a fever is. It’s more general than the fever you’re talking about.
Hey….I gave the proof….clearly you just don’t care that the anti-vaccs lie to parents….how sad….
W&N
Brett:
Whatever brand of coffee you are drinking I want some.
W&N- i think by now you are getting the message
We are way beyond your non-researched comments trying to defend unsafe and non effective vaccines.
Have you really done the research and looked at both sides like a good lawyer does ?
Seeing you are so pro-vaccine safety and efficacy once FDA approved, have you studied the biggest failure on HPV vaccines and why Japan has taken it off their vaccination schedule, huge concerns from Israel, France, Spain, Nordic countries and now dumped on third world countries ?
Have you researched Wakefield, Kennedy , GreenMed scientific publications and the Burbacher and Guzzi studies where the harmful content in vaccines cross the blood brain barrier ?
Have you listened to the Contempo and Bollinger series with experts, doctors and scientists comments ?
Once you have, feel free to make informed comments
In the meantime, feel free to vaccinate your kids, no one is forcing anyone on this site, unlike what the Vaccine mafia is doing in California and Australia
Our grandchildren have not been vaccinated, but for one (only polio – which we regret once looked at the research). They are healthy and wonderful, exactly what is proven in the link below – we have EVERYTHING ! (Seen the movie BOUGHT ?)
In case you missed this link above
http://www.cmsri.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MawsonStudyHealthOutcomes5.8.2017.pdf
as well as http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/retractions-errors-driving-loss-faith-peer-review-process
All the best W&N
Thanks for the response.
The true message here is very, very clear.
1. I keep suggesting that folks should get their science from actual scientists….this is an obviously completely rational thing to do…but nothing but silence from the anti-vaccs….
2. I keep pointing out simple facts.
E.g. right above here I posted a 220 page summary of decades of safety testing of new entire vaccine schedule.
All one has to do is to read the words and thus see that those who claim the entire schedule has never been tested for safety are not truthful…but apparently no one else here—including you—was willing to read the words…
3. I didn’t ignore the Mawson paper.
I clearly pointed out above that this work has been retracted—twice!
The paper is gross scientific fraud that clearly deceives parents. And statisticians have explained in detail exactly why the paper is complete and utter BS.
Still looking for one anti-vacc that is truthful about the paper….
4. Yup, I have done my research. Feel free to pick any issue you like and start a new thread. I can predict right now that you will have nothing to post that will stand up to good faith fact-checking.
But hey, I am willing to fairly look at your POV—can you say the same to me?
W&N
Have you ever read a vaccine insert for adverse reactions? Do you believe those things never happen? Happened in our house. Wow! We must be the ONE in a MILLION. Riiiiiigggghhhhtttt….
I note that once again…like all the other anti-vaccs…you are silent about parent’s being deceived by a grossly fraudulent paper!
Anyway….you can find the vaccine inserts here:
https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm093833.htm
Yes I have read them and I actually understand them! I think that it is clear that you don’t understand them….but if you have an argument to make…go right ahead. I am willing to look at it with an open mind.
W&N
BTW….apparently if one posts with more than one link it goes to moderation….I have a number of other responses to you waiting on the moderator…
W&N
W&N LOL that is NOT a vaccine ininsert. Hey vaccine insert shows the ingredients and the list of side effects!! You just showed a list of vaccines.
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm
Do you even know what the vaccine schedule was 30 years ago compared to what it is today? It has MORE than tripled! Why?
Oh dear,
I am sorry that your reading skills weren’t up to the task…big hint…the places labelled as “inserts” from my link…those are the inserts…
Given that reading failure…it isn’t surprising that you don’t understand the difference between side effects and adverse events…sad…this anti-vacc scam has been explained over and over and over for many years…
Anyway…in answer to your question….there are more vaccines given now because of the safety and efficacy data…even if you just can’t follow the math…the experience of every healthcare company/system really shouldn’t be too hard to understand….
W&N
you are an arrogant little shithead.
Learn some manners.
WOW! Do you people who are so against vaccinations not realize the danger you put 1000s of kids with weakened immune systems every day by refusing to vaccinate your children. Do you also seriously think that Measles is not that big of a deal or that these vaccines are going to give your child autism. How about the fact that things like the mumps or measles or even smallpox are coming back after being basically inactive since the development and normalization of these vaccines because you think the so-called risks are worse than oh I don’t know DEATH from one of these diseases. There is also the fact that if its found out your child has died because of your refusal or if he or she becomes sick because of something you could have prevented you can receive up to a year in prison possibly more and your children will be taken from you. So before you go spouting things off at the mouth please think of the costly effects of your decisions on others including your own children because you think a vaccine with such a minuet chance of causing an adverse reaction should not be given to your child not all
Sky, Thank you for your comment. Millions of other people share your opinion proving that billion dollar scare campaigns work on the majority of people. But research clearly shows that vaccine compliance goes down when vaccine education goes up. If you take the time to get educated, you’ll understand why.
For most people, their education started when a vaccine or vaccines injured or killed one of their children. I pray the same does not happen to you or yours. Blessings to you.
What percentage of these measles outbreaks are wild (natural) virus? What percentage or lab sourced (vaccine) virus?
100% vaccination rate:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/uss-fort-mchenry-mumps-outbreak
Where did the mumps come from ? Did Merck make an effective vaccine? If the vaccine works, then why force people to vaccine? How many years has Japan gone without compulsory vaccines? How much lower is their autism rate than the US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgkKREhQrs
Bought – Healthcare Industry Documentary
Thank you for supporting the most profitable most criminal industry on the planet.
Vaccine compliance goes down with people who gain a little knowledge. It rises dramatically when people actually understand the science of the immune system.
Your factious claims of injury due to vaccination are absurd. Vaccines have saved millions of lives. They have saved billions of dollars. The polio vaccine alone has become one of the most important things that we can do for our children.
Also, I find it hard to understand how you profess to believe in the gospel, living prophets and yet distrust them when they say “vaccinate”.
@Nelson Andersson
Vaccines eradicated smallpox and scarlet fever at the same time at the same rate, right? And the vaccine did that, not improvements in sanitation, hygiene, nutrition? And these diseases would have raged, resurged and killed millions without the vaccines right?
Wait, what year did the scarlet fever vaccine come out? How much did measles deaths decline before measles vaccine came out?
http://www dot dissolvingillusions dot com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/G11.2-UK-Deaths-1838-1978.png
http://www dot dissolvingillusions dot com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/G14.5-MA-Measles-1861-1970.png
Nelson,
The scientists who manipulate the immune system with vaccinations don’t understand the immune system, some of them even admit that to be the case from time to time. In the church I belong to, we are free to do good even when living prophets tell us to do otherwise. When we forget that principle we cross the line from church to cult. There have been a few times in our history when we crossed the line and atrocities were committed. One of the greatest atrocities I ever committed was when I willingly consented to the poisoning of my children by vaccination. Never again!
You didn’t poison your children. You protected them. Everything you think you know about vaccines is wrong, and that is why you are not doing good. You are doing evil by lying about vaccines, especially connecting it to Autism which is hate speech against the Autistic community. You don’t understand Autism either. Your list is an atrocity. You are not telling the truth and you need to unlearn what you have learned. I will be uploading a full response to my website on a blog I run on there against one of your supporters (who was the person who attracted my attention to this garbage laden nonsense) within the next 24 hours.
Funny. You did not document a single point. Care to provide a link to any single point? Or would you like to continue being guilty of what you accuse others of doing?
the above comment from 6/19/2020 was posted in reply to
Catarina
MAY 12, 2017 AT 3:30 AM
Wow I’ve never seen so much bullshit condensed in one post. Actually the most studied pharmaceutical product is oral contraceptives not vaccines. Like everything else in the world, vaccines also have their drawbacks yet the benefits hugely outcome those drawbacks. Even your “natural remedies” can have adverse effects, funny hun? It’s kinda cool anti-vaxx saying the industry is faking proof when almost all studies againts vaccines are proved wrong and even docs have already lost licenses for faking proof in anti-vaxx studies. If your concern is about the needles please know that in licensed health unities we use sterile disposable needles this means they’re used only once and then get thrown away in specific recipients to not contaminate the environment. Btw you forgot to mention that the big majority of non-vaccinated children spend lots of time of their childhood taking medicine and antibiotics because they’re immunity is not the same as the others, this is proved by studies and not on the bullshit you read across the internet. Honestly what anti-vaxx people do is that tey’re providing the public with false information and they should be more conscious about it.
Please tell us more about the placebos used in vaccines studies. Are they using the standard placebo? Saline injection?
On what planet ?
the companies/healthcare systems that profit from induced autism do not pay for the social costs of epidemic autism spectrum disorder or any other life long disability benefits that they profit from.
Epidemic?? Autism is not a disease!! Nor is it induced!! That is hate speech and should be apologised for!
My heart goes out to all autistic people and their families. In 1970 autism was one in 10 000, today it is one in 38 and growing, with a vaccine preservative , ingredient called thymerasol, a known neuro toxin, that crosses the blood brain barrier (Guzzi study) and settles in the brain, having affected autistic kids. Ever thought why Amish communities dont have an autism pandemic, …they dont vaccinate
If you put your trust in arm of flesh -pharma (and not God see D & C 42:43, D&C 89) these man made criminal enterprises will take you down with them. Google – phizer and historical fines. You can put most pharma’s names there and look ar the outcome, Criminal fines running into the millions of $, even billions. Enough said, i rest my case
Add to your reading verse 44 of D &C 42